‘Bye, Prima…Permanently?

August 14, 2003 · 7 comments

After months and months of unfulfilled promises to return and make his site current, Scott Hammond, Sr. has apparently pulled the plug on Primarewards.com. Is it permanent, or is this part of his latest promise – to revamp Prima but to not honor redemptions immediately (or not at 100%)?

Who knows. Who cares? Well, the people owed a whole lot probably do… but let’s face it, the warning signs have been there for 9 months or so, and anyone continuing to try to earn points through Prima’s been in serious denial. I feel your pain, but let’s write it off as a bad business debt and just move on…and at least get some solace in the fact that no more newbies are being taken in/lead on by the promises in the site’s terms and FAQs.

And in the meantime, should Scott actually be in the process of creating a bionic rewards program, “better than it was before…better, stronger, faster”, um, how did that saying go about, “fool me once, shame on you…”…? ;)

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Becky August 14, 2003 at 11:02 pm

Hmm…Now this is interesting. Primaconceptsinc.com was registered by Mr. Scott Hammond on May 20 of this year. FWIW… (basically zip)

Anonymous August 16, 2003 at 5:38 pm

their swapstartpage site is also dead to the world

Betsy August 19, 2003 at 12:27 pm

BUT …. cashbaq.com (another prima site) seems to be alive and well and signing up new members. I cancelled my membership last winter in protest over what was happening over at primarewards so I don’t know if he is actually responding to email there.
I sure won’t waste more time at any site he is involved in, not because I am vindictive but because I cannot trust him after the way he has treated subscribers.

Rick Nickles August 20, 2003 at 7:36 pm

“I feel your pain, but let’s write it off as a bad business debt and just move on”
This is the kind of thing that these thieves live for – to scam people and then everybody just blows it off – they get away scot free – we just blow it all off as a bad business decision and we get taken, they don’t have any consequences, they aren’t repentant and don’t change, and then they try to set up something else to scam someone else. This guy is a con and a cheat, and yet nobody seems to be turning him over to the authorities for ripping them off because we’re in the habit of blowing it off. For those of us who have been burned by Flooz, Cyber-Rebate, Milespree, Qool, etc.. and other related programs, and you have put time and energy and trust in them – it’s ok to feel violated, even though nothing can be done about them. It’s also hard to be discerning about who is going to scam you and who isn’t. Somehow, there needs to be some kind of an effort for the people who are out there scamming to be made accountable for their crimes. Scott is a criminal – Period. Hopefully, he will get
honest and repay those whom he has stolen from.
I was never able to spend my Prima points, but with these point programs – spend them as fast as you can before they go under.
Just my thoughts – thanks for this forum!
It is appreciated!

Becky August 20, 2003 at 7:51 pm

Hi, Rick! I appreciate your comments!
The problems that I see with pursuing this are this: first, to prove fraud, you’re going to have to prove intent. You’d have to show that Scott had planned this whole thing all along — to take in a lot of people, make money off them, and then refuse to pay. How are you going to prove that? Second, this was in Prima’s Terms of Service (from Google’s cache): “Prima Rewards shall not be liable to any member should Prima Rewards exercise its right to modify or discontinue the Prima Rewards program.” So… I don’t see there’s much we can do.

Rick Nickles August 22, 2003 at 1:56 am

Becky -
You are quite right. I guess in the future we should all read the legalese and if they really go that far to protect themselves, then maybe the program isn’t worth participating in. I remember reading similar language in the Milespree agreement, which gives them the legal right to close the program without any recourse at any time.
I guess proving criminal intent is what police detectives do, but there is most likely not a case at all. But something can be said to these folks that are participating in his new programs. He can be blacklisted, and it is somewhat effective. I’m not trying to get vengeance or anything like that, but I think people should be protected.
Thanks again.

Anonymous September 9, 2003 at 1:55 pm

Please cancel me!!!!!!!!ASAP and refund me fees that you have received!!

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